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I’m looking for any alt and tech maps. Also any benefits of singletapping besides accuracy?
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I’m looking for any alt and tech maps. Also any benefits of singletapping besides accuracy?
Keep in mind that you can alternate any map, but if you’re looking for fast-paced and sliderheavy ones dubbed «alt maps», this post has some good ones: https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/47h7n0/good_alternating_maps/
Some others I enjoyed:
Rubik24 wrote:
Keep in mind that you can alternate any map, but if you’re looking for fast-paced and sliderheavy ones dubbed «alt maps», this post has some good ones: https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/47h7n0/good_alternating_maps/
Some others I enjoyed:
Molly Sandera wrote:
Thanks! Btw are alt maps and finger control maps the same?
No, not really.
The term «alt map» usually refers to maps that are too fast to singletap overall, meaning that you are more or less forced to alternate everything. They are very high speed and high in difficulty and you pretty much won’t find them below 4* at all. While alternating also requires finger control in some way it really doesn’t equal finger control on a fundamental level.
Finger control maps challenge your rhythmic control and finger coordination. While this almost always involves alternating between your fingers it doesn’t mean that the entire map needs to be alternated.
An example for a finger control that is not really that much about alternating would be https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/10764#osu/41593
It keeps switching time intervals between singles and although that happens in a predictable fashion it is still not easy to consistently do it and get great accuracy.
That being said I think you shouldn’t worry about alt and tech maps that much yet as there are pretty much none of them at your level of difficulty.
For now you should really work on getting your triples perfect yet.
These 2 might be somewhat interesting for you:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/379890#osu/844581
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/395854#osu/866020
Endaris wrote:
Molly Sandera wrote:
Thanks! Btw are alt maps and finger control maps the same?
No, not really.
The term «alt map» usually refers to maps that are too fast to singletap overall, meaning that you are more or less forced to alternate everything. They are very high speed and high in difficulty and you pretty much won’t find them below 4* at all. While alternating also requires finger control in some way it really doesn’t equal finger control on a fundamental level.
Finger control maps challenge your rhythmic control and finger coordination. While this almost always involves alternating between your fingers it doesn’t mean that the entire map needs to be alternated.
An example for a finger control that is not really that much about alternating would be https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/10764#osu/41593
It keeps switching time intervals between singles and although that happens in a predictable fashion it is still not easy to consistently do it and get great accuracy.
That being said I think you shouldn’t worry about alt and tech maps that much yet as there are pretty much none of them at your level of difficulty.
For now you should really work on getting your triples perfect yet.
These 2 might be somewhat interesting for you:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/379890#osu/844581
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/395854#osu/866020
Endaris wrote:
Molly Sandera wrote:
Thanks! Btw are alt maps and finger control maps the same?
No, not really.
The term «alt map» usually refers to maps that are too fast to singletap overall, meaning that you are more or less forced to alternate everything. They are very high speed and high in difficulty and you pretty much won’t find them below 4* at all. While alternating also requires finger control in some way it really doesn’t equal finger control on a fundamental level.
Finger control maps challenge your rhythmic control and finger coordination. While this almost always involves alternating between your fingers it doesn’t mean that the entire map needs to be alternated.
An example for a finger control that is not really that much about alternating would be beatmapsets/10764#osu/41593
It keeps switching time intervals between singles and although that happens in a predictable fashion it is still not easy to consistently do it and get great accuracy.
That being said I think you shouldn’t worry about alt and tech maps that much yet as there are pretty much none of them at your level of difficulty.
For now you should really work on getting your triples perfect yet.
These 2 might be somewhat interesting for you:
beatmapsets/379890#osu/844581
beatmapsets/395854#osu/866020[/quote:1337 ]
Must mention something: 3* tech maps are real. I have seen it with my own eyes. I’ll tell you some examples if you are interested (i only know some, but there are probably more that i played and didn’t realise they were tech)
Maps for practicing finger alternating
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Maps for practicing finger alternating
these might help. two of them are only a little above 2.7 stars but i don’t think they’ll be too much of a problem.
abraker wrote:
The problem is that I’m used to doing 1 finger. Maps where that have sliders overlapping close to each other like the one I linked force me to alternate fingers or I’m almost guaranteed a combo break.
abraker wrote:
The problem is that I’m used to doing 1 finger. Maps where that have sliders overlapping close to each other like the one I linked force me to alternate fingers or I’m almost guaranteed a combo break.
woqx wrote:
You can practise that on literally every map, just alternate your fingers lol
This
It’s a matter of habit.
Stop forcing yourself into alternating by playing with mods that cause you to combobreak. Just like with any technique you have to get used to it for a while and this works best with easier maps you haven’t played yet. I’d recommend downloading some beatmap packs.
Any map that spams Slider+Circle-combinations won’t teach you alternating cause that’s not the hard part about it, it’s the easiest.
For practicing sliderbreaking(not) you can use maps with lots of sliders and consistent density like this one:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/349993
Also: You don’t have to alternate everything. You can just alternate triples for now, alternating won’t be as hard when you need it cause the maps get too fast. It’s playstyle preference.
/edit: AAAAnd common rule for std-beginners: Don’t play DT. Get gud first, then you can play it.
How do I start to practice alternating?
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How do I start to practice alternating?
Mercurial wrote:
Gotta Steph up my game from now on.
Endaris wrote:
Mashing is very easy with fullalt.
this is so true i literally mashed through a beatmap that i had been trying to fc and get even worst result LOL
thanks for the advice >_>
one more question though
do i start with my main finger every time or not
Mercurial wrote:
Gotta Steph up my game from now on.
StephOsu wrote:
one more question though
do i start with my main finger every time or not
Infevo wrote:
nice post
such caps
much motivation
wow
Endaris wrote:
StephOsu wrote:
one more question though
do i start with my main finger every time or not
Uhm
Like zxz zxz?
I guess you could but I think most fullalt-players including me play zxz xzx as it lies just in the nature of the playstyle to alternate EVERYTHING(ok, spinners are exempt). If you want to keep playing zxz zxz there doesn’t even seem to be a real point in playing fullalt as zxz zxz ruins the ability to do consecutive triples at high bpm while zxz xzx could pull it off.
1 second) break(because after a long break starting from whichever finger doesn’t matter anymore isn’t it)
well that sounds pretty legit
time to spend 1 month tilting myself before able to both alternate and single tap
Mercurial wrote:
Gotta Steph up my game from now on.
Strict full alternating training script
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Strict full alternating training script
DO NOT USE THIS FOR ONLINE RANKING. USING ANY SCRIPTS THAT AFFECT INPUT DATA osu! SEES IS AGAINST THE RULES AND WILL RESULT IN A BAN.
I’m a full alternater and over the past few weeks I’ve started playing more maps with burts/streams. However I wasn’t paying too much attention to the pattern in which I was clicking those bursts/streams and I’ve developed (what I would consider) a bad habit of inconsistently starting them. That is I would end up double tapping one key or the other a lot in complicated patterns. This has culminated in me not being able to handle complicated patterns with any consistency.
The below is an autohotkey script that only allows the keys to be pressed in a strict zxzxzxzxzxzx pattern with no variation i.e. if you try to press out of sequence you miss. It’s intended purely for training purposes because it’s very easy to have misses unrelated to bad alternating when you’re starting a map or after breaks.
If you’re not familiar with AHK and you want to use the script then I’d suggest you google it and read their quickstart guide.
Just put a disclaimer in big red bold caps before this gets nuked:
DO NOT USE THIS FOR ONLINE RANKING. USING ANY SCRIPTS THAT AFFECT INPUT DATA osu! SEES IS AGAINST THE RULES AND WILL RESULT IN A BAN.
Feel free to use offline for practice though
inb4 still nuked. Sorry, I tried
abraker wrote:
inb4 still nuked. Sorry I tried
inb4 still nuked. Sorry, I tried
IMO this doesn’t affect ranking at all since it just strict your keyboard keys to be pressed in certain order. You don’t get any type of unfair advantage in gameplay by this.
As far as i see script does not time your keypresses, does not automaticaly press them for you or other kind of this thing which could be considered as a cheating.
Yet before using this i would recommend poking devs for confirmation and support for approval.
[Taiga] wrote:
inb4 still nuked. Sorry, I tried
IMO this doesn’t affect ranking at all since it just strict your keyboard keys to be pressed in certain order. You don’t get any type of unfair advantage in gameplay by this.
It was decided some time ago that using any scripts of this sort is not fair play irc.
Manipulation or alteration of the client such as score hacking, macroing, affecting the timescale on which the client operates, auto-aim, and anything that generally removes the human element from play is considered cheating. If you have to ask if something is considered cheating, and you have to use an external program to achieve that effect, it probably is.
abraker wrote:
Manipulation or alteration of the client such as score hacking, macroing, affecting the timescale on which the client operates, auto-aim, and anything that generally removes the human element from play is considered cheating. If you have to ask if something is considered cheating, and you have to use an external program to achieve that effect, it probably is.
abraker wrote:
In any case, using this on online ranking will trigger the anti-cheat system, so legit or not, it will get you banned
abraker wrote:
I’m surprised. You are lucky that turned out to be the case, but I still won’t recommend using it.
nrl wrote:
I don’t understand why strict alternation would be preferable at all. Just keep doing what ever you’re doing and learn to do it better, there’s nothing wrong with being able to start patterns on either finger. It sounds like a useful skill, honestly.
I didn’t explain the problem I was having as well as I could have. When you strict full alternate you start patterns with whatever fingers coming up next so you have to be able to do everything starting from any finger, which is indeed useful.
The problem I encountered was that I was favoring one finger for starting bursts/streams and sometimes adding double taps to complicated mixed patterns, and while this worked some of the time it would end up confusing my fingers and I’d miss notes.
After using the above script for a while I’ve found that going between 1, 1/2, 1/4 time patterns feels much smoother with strict alternation. I’m fairly sure I’d picked up the weird tapping style from trying to spam slightly too difficult songs and though I probably could have made it work with practice I’m fairly sure strict alternation will be more consistent in the long run.
nrl wrote:
It just seems like a really arbitrary constraint is all, though I guess I don’t understand why people alternate to begin with.
G3TTR1GG3R3D wrote:
nrl wrote:
It just seems like a really arbitrary constraint is all, though I guess I don’t understand why people alternate to begin with.
If you’re not strict alternating then at some point you’re double tapping and while that might have its uses in some situations you’d need to train for it and have some logical cue for using it. I had neither the training nor the cue and it was just ruining my timing.
Kisses wrote:
isnt it un-natural to alternate everything though?
I’d agree. This was a conscious decision I made shortly after I started playing because I saw potential advantages in it and it wasn’t too hard for me to pick up.
Kisses wrote:
Generally people press one key for everything and only alternate when there are 1/4 spaced notes; so you dont really have to use your brain whilst playing you just click what you see.
I was thinking about this just the other day. I think alternating is inherently more difficult than the normal style because you can’t match a finger to a circle. I very much like the term ‘finger reading’; with single tapping finger reading is completely natural but with alternating it’s pretty much impossible.
The thing is that with enough practice I’ve found I don’t think about which finger is doing what at all, it’s just completely automatic. This is what lead me to not strict alternating because I was never sure which finger was doing what, it was just happening.
The script is very helpful because it means that I miss when I’m not strict alternating and my tapping pattern is most readily shaped by the feedback osu! gives me.
Kisses wrote:
Where as alternating on the other hand, when playing more complicated rhythms you would have to stop the fluid motion to pause and keep in your head for which finger you just used.
I would argue that alternating is just as fluid when you’ve learnt how to do it, and I find strict alternating the most fluid. Maybe it’s just me but try tapping on a table like you’re streaming quite slowly and then double the bpm, then go back to the slow stream and try to add a double tap in somewhere. I find the bpm doubling much more natural than the double tap, but that might be because I alternate and have little experience with the second pattern.
That seems way more harder and seems like youre forcing unnecessary difficulty and skill to play
How to alternate tap.
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How to alternate tap.
OppaiTaisho wrote:
I’m used to single tapping
You answered your question by yourself
Singletapping is easy to learn but slow. Actually im not even sure if you even have to learn it.
Alternating is hard to learn but much faster than singletapping.
OppaiTaisho wrote:
I can alternate tap for only streams,half streams and 4+ beats stacked upon each other but other than I that I suck at it, I’m used to single tapping but I don’t have the stamina to do it all the time, is there a technique or something I can follow?
I’d also like to know the advantages of alternating vs single tapping.
play more doesn’t work if you’re playing with a bad habit
see my profile for Tips and FAQ.
RedPanda wrote:
you’re just gonna get 800 different answers like all these threads
just play the game
Yeah learning to alternate will be a pain but its not required.
To improve single tapping just single tap the maps you like.
i singletap too you can check out my top ranks for some cool songs, i was single tapping all of them.
Single-tapping is better for training speed/stamina and better if you want be a fast streamer. Alternating gives you more speed/stamina on everything except streams but it can be mentally confusing to learn. I find it helpful for learning things like spaced streams and for playing certain mapping styles, like fanzhen.
I would recommend learning single-tap with both fingers. It will give you good finger control and you can learn to stream faster and more accurately. I also used to use a laptop kb but I switched to mech and it really helped my stamina so you can consider that.
cheaptricks wrote:
Single-tapping is better for training speed/stamina and better if you want be a fast streamer.
cheaptricks wrote:
When I single-tap I’m using fingers unless it gets to really high bpm, when I use arm/wrist. Maybe its cause I finger tap more than other people when I single-tap, but practicing single-tap at a given bpm has definitely helped me stream that bpm more easily. Also what bpm are you finding alternating more tiring? I mean when you alternate you use fingers rather than wrist so that could affect it but you’re still using two fingers instead of one so it should feel less tiring.
All bpms. It’s always easier for me to single tap than alternate no matter what the bpm.
Im pretty sure that what’s strengthening your streaming isn’t the wrist tapping, but the finger tapping.